This is a great fan observation relating to the shot in ‘The long Con’ of the big dipper/plough star constellation combined with the numbers as plotted on a 7x6 grid. The grid relates because Leonard was seen playing connect four (7x6 grid) whilst chanting the numbers. As you can see laying the numbers on the grid and highlighting them provides a near ameliorate representation of the big dipper as represented in the lost shot.
The first thing I noticed about the lost visualise is that the constellation is mirrored/backwards. I undergo considered things like production errors optical glass reversal but after some investigate I found this:
“Five of the stars of the Big Dipper are at the core of the Ursa Major Moving assort. The two at the ends. Dubhe and Alkaid are not move of the swarm and are moving in the opposite direction. Relative to the central five they are moving down and to the alter in the map. This will slowly change the Dipper’s shape with the bowl opening up and the command becoming more bent. In 50,000 years the Dipper will no longer exist as we experience it but be re-formed into a new Dipper facing the opposite way. The stars Alkaid to Phecda will then constitute the bowl while Phecda. Merak and Dubhe will be the handle.”
Based on the prior statement that the dipper ordain reverse in the future could the missing star have expired at that point? Could this explosion be the end of the word as we know it? Is the island post explosion remains?
I plotted out the number grid against the dipper we see today (numbers backwards). When including the missing star Mizar it appears to be represented by the be 30…… missing be changing numbers?
Obviously we have six numbers closely representing six stars of the inverted dipper but by our current dipper we should have seven.
I would love to continue into an amazing theory of how this ties in but I really can’t think! Help! I can aimlessly carry on though
In an earlier theory I have speculated that we already have bear witness of the island possessing futuristic artefacts i e consume monster and the four toed statue. 50,000 years sounds reasonable for evolution to strip humans of the little toe and technology to have advanced to such a point that a smoke cloud can construe your mind. I experience the ‘time travel’ aspect of lost is debunked so I’ll leave that for now.
I undergo also speculated that the numbers are a ‘calling card’ to the island. I am no solar orientation expert but is it possible that the numbers are a coded communicate the stars at a certain time can lead to the island by using the 7x6 grid as a reference. The numbers etched on the be born are like a affix code for delivery.
This sounds ridiculous and far too complicated but If you take the birth origin of the surviving losties and plot (one plot per country) them on the world map as far as I can tell you have 7 countries. Starting with the US-Brazil(Paulo)-UK-Nigeria-Iraq-South Korea-Australia……It more or less gives the inverted dipper try it. Thus the countries represent the numbers. Almost certainly overkill on the dipper idea?
Rogers_continue rightly pointed out that the backwards dipper is seen in “Special” S01 not “The desire Con”
Wow five—awesome theory. I think it fits with the theory kat just recently posted about the axis mundi in a couple of ways—disturbance in the cosmos equates with disturbance in human gestation (macro and microcosm—as above so below). And the fact that polaris is part of the little dipper (ursus study and minor—polar bears and teddy bears). Finally as kat mentioned above. Claire’s tie-in to astrology and the “Catch a Falling Star” song. If we go approve to the cosmology/human life parallel and perhaps think of Aaron as the missing star (Mizar?) so somehow Aaron’s life is centrally tied to averting the apocalypse?
The “M” stands for “Messier”. The Messier objects are a set of astronomical objects catalogued by Charles Messier in his catalogue of Nebulae and feature Clusters.
And remember that Carl told Sawyer and Kate that he and Alex liked to look at stars and constellations. He named one of them Theodore-Teddy which I accept is a reference to Ursa Major. Ursa Major is the constellation associated with the big dipper as well.
There seems to be no logical reason why the numbers which must represent Earthly conditions environment technology politics or whatever would be correlated to stars. Isn’t that just astrology?
As for the dipper reversing uhm… not likely. Those stars are not on a cut that can be flipped. They occupy three dimensions and are in fact at vastly different distances from Earth. The only way to “reverse” the constellation would be to act earth to almost the other align of the galaxy. I can’t see that being the answer to the riddles we encounter.
I have argued on other people’s theories and I continue to lay out that we now have a handle on the numbers. The producers. I’m sure get off on dropping the numbers here and there to shock us affect us or delight us but beyond that turning the numbers sixteen different ways rearranging them graphing them turning them into star charts astrological charts numerology charts adding them squaring them stirring baking sauteeing them or trying to make sense of them as latitude and longitude is wrongheaded.
Succinctly: it appears to be canon that the numbers are related to a doomsday equation. There is no logic whatsoever in trying to make those numbers move to the stars.
You obviously undergo intelligence and imagination (as do many other theorists). I would just desire to see us as a assort aiming our theories at areas that do NOT believe on astrology numerology or magic.
Wills Dad…. nice rant. I agree that the connect four-dipper thing takes the numbers to a seemingly improbable route but just one point-
To see the dipper in reverse we would not need to be “the other side of the galaxy”. 2 of the 7 stars are moving in the opposite direction to the other 5 this means that from Planet hide the constellation ordain appear to change in about 50,000 years. In between now and then the dipper will look completely different but go to agree the dipper again but in a different feature order. (Possibly as the dipper looks in ‘the desire Con’) So I say it is not so much astrology but astronomically predicted based on movement so far. So the reversal of the dipper is not fan created “magic”.
I prefer umbrella theories myself but stumbling upon the minor dilate that the numbers perfectly fit a connect-4 grid which Leonard was playing whilst chanting the numbers then when plotted create the reversed big dipper which is then seen in ‘the long con’………seemed too juicy not to affix. Logical or not.
Excellent affix! Considering every element of LOST is crucial - as is every element of any classic mystery. The number-repeating guy to cerebrate four to hurley is brilliant. Although. I still support the time-travel theories. And it seems to me that any possible connection with great balls of fire millions of light years away would give them too. How have they been debunked?
five - question for you: are you sure that ‘The Long Con” was the episode that this constellation appeared in? The cerebrate I ask is I just watched “Special” from Season 1 and the same constellation is there alter after Michael and Locke deliver Walt from the polar bear. Is it in both episodes? Funny that Ursa means feature and they show that constellation right after the bear scene… What does it all mean!?! Nice affix. +1
Rogers_Head you are right it is from ‘special’. Thanks for letting me experience. Yeah it is quite crazy that it comes after the bear scene. The backwards dipper is so clear it has to be significant.
JWLOST “Wow did you stretch this out to the point of making me vomit” Ha Ha Ha I feel totally that the dippers visibility is important as you said in your post. As for the country plotting. I’m not sure guess I had too much time on my hands that week. But it does bring home the bacon! Did you try it?
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