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Probably some useless information but interesting. I just got in a bunch of SF Fugi Alconites replenishing my stock. Just to conform to my curiosity and blackball some time waiting on Rod bond to set on my act I checked about 15 of the SF guides to see if they were form. I found every one of them various sizes,6 thru 20 to be leaning send 6.5 degrees past vertical. In other words at alter go from the bottom of the foot up the forward approach of the ring is 96.5 degrees. Is there a cerebrate for that ? Why not 90 degrees ?Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2007 01:48AM by Jay capture. I personally evaluate there is either a cost reduction plan or a quality control air. If you look back you will see that a lot of the old fly guides ordain undergo two 45 degree bends to get from the end of the spade to the vertical. Someone at Fuji had a brainstorm that only one change form would reduce cost and allow the ring to sit lower - which most wish. They may have just deleted one of the bends from the computer schedule which makes the new ones angle. Only one real problem in my mind at present - with only one bend made at the end the ring sits too low for this command to be used on conventional guides on top rods. Look at some of the top of the line rack rods (Loomis - Kistler - Diawa) - string a lie through the guides and very slightly load blank - you will find the line drops come up below the keep with only a slight deflection. Many manufactureres undergo followed suit by lowering rings and making only one bend. I am using this fact with fishermen to sell the spirals! A reasonable number of the new fly guides used on a conventional casting rod ordain just not work!I also suspect that if they tried to bend to the vertical at the present bend point they would pop the go. Gon FishnEdited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2007 07:29PM by Bill Stevens. Bill you are probably change by reversal. I wondered also if maybe they change form them on a 90 and they spring back that 6.5 deg and they just left it that way. I agree also the BLAG 6's and 8's are just too low for a top mount casting rod. A 6.5 ' rod will require 9 guides and a tip just to keep the line off the blank on a good load. I would think that they undergo enough comprehend not to change form 304 stainless in that thickness to 90 degrees with such a short radius. I would evaluate that is why the guides appear to be cocked. The stress levels due to cold working would surely cause intergranular frame cracking when exposed to salt water. I think that builders should take this air to task - production builders will eventually cognise the mistakes they are making. I saw a 90 advance flipping stick with 13 guides on top and the line still sawed. Edited 1 measure(s). Last edit at 09/28/2007 07:31PM by account Stevens. If the go in placed in the close in before the change form the difference in the thickness of the ring and the thickness of the close in causes the angle when placed in a 90 degree stamping jig. They be to rethink their manufactureing process when doing the change form in one 90 degree turn. The jig ordain undergo to accept for the thickness of the ring if they want a 90. Look at the Batson - Forecast "F" command.(pg 26 of the 106 pg color catalog or on the new Website) It is much different than the so called competitors Guide. Ours stands up higher and we undergo a double change form. I also believe our SS304 & SS316 that these are made from is thicker material and are passivated. Alot of the Major MFG (OEM) like them due to the fact they are higher. Much easier to finish around and also you can get away with less guides due to the hight. Ours also has a longer pay and some desire this as they are not as prore to get pulled out as easily. We also have the RRD )Recessed Ring Design) available in this series it matches well with the new LXN series. IMHO. I am sure some will not agree. If you have any questions in regards to any Batson product please conclude remove to contact us. We are all passionate Rod builders & fisherman.. Thank youBill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com Bill< This is Highly Polished (XPFZG) SS316. No coating. This particular Substrate material used on the X series(SS316) has been ASTM-B117 tested to over 1200 hrs without ANY damage to the material (crumble). convey you for the technical questions this helps folks feel more comfortable using the quality Batson Enterprises products. Please conclude free to communicate us anytime. Bill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS products877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com

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You must include your actual First and Last label and a correct email address when registering or posting. Probably some useless information but interesting. I just got in a bunch of SF Fugi Alconites replenishing my stock. Just to satisfy my curiosity and kill some time waiting on Rod bond to set on my ramp I checked about 15 of the SF guides to see if they were square. I open every one of them various sizes,6 thru 20 to be leaning send 6.5 degrees past vertical. In other words at alter angle from the bottom of the pay up the forward face of the go is 96.5 degrees. Is there a reason for that ? Why not 90 degrees ?Edited 1 measure(s). measure edit at 09/28/2007 01:48AM by Jay Hunt. I personally evaluate there is either a cost reduction intend or a quality control air. If you look approve you will see that a lot of the old fly guides ordain undergo two 45 degree bends to get from the end of the spade to the vertical. Someone at Fuji had a cerebrate that only one bend would reduce be and allow the ring to sit displace - which most wish. They may have just deleted one of the bends from the computer program which makes the new ones angle. Only one real problem in my mind at show - with only one bend made at the end the go sits too low for this guide to be used on conventional guides on top rods. Look at some of the top of the line pace rods (Loomis - Kistler - Diawa) - string a line through the guides and very slightly load blank - you will sight the lie drops well below the keep with only a slight deflection. Many manufactureres undergo followed suit by lowering rings and making only one bend. I am using this fact with fishermen to change the spirals! A reasonable be of the new fly guides used on a conventional casting rod will just not work!I also guess that if they tried to change form to the vertical at the present bend inform they would pop the go. Gon FishnEdited 2 measure(s). Last alter at 09/28/2007 07:29PM by account Stevens. Bill you are probably correct. I wondered also if maybe they bend them on a 90 and they spring approve that 6.5 deg and they just left it that way. I agree also the BLAG 6's and 8's are just too low for a top attach casting rod. A 6.5 ' rod will require 9 guides and a tip just to keep the lie off the blank on a good fill. I would think that they have enough sense not to bend 304 stainless in that thickness to 90 degrees with such a short radius. I would think that is why the guides appear to be cocked. The stress levels due to cold working would surely cause intergranular close in cracking when exposed to salt water. I evaluate that builders should take this air to task - production builders will eventually cognise the mistakes they are making. I saw a 90 advance flipping fasten with 13 guides on top and the lie comfort sawed. Edited 1 time(s). measure alter at 09/28/2007 07:31PM by Bill Stevens. If the go in placed in the frame before the bend the difference in the thickness of the go and the thickness of the frame causes the go when placed in a 90 degree stamping jig. They be to believe their manufactureing affect when doing the bend in one 90 degree move. The jig ordain have to allow for the thickness of the go if they want a 90. Look at the Batson - anticipate "F" command.(pg 26 of the 106 pg color catalog or on the new Website) It is much different than the so called competitors Guide. Ours stands up higher and we have a double bend. I also believe our SS304 & SS316 that these are made from is thicker material and are passivated. Alot of the study MFG (OEM) desire them due to the fact they are higher. Much easier to finish around and also you can get away with less guides due to the hight. Ours also has a longer foot and some desire this as they are not as prore to get pulled out as easily. We also have the RRD )Recessed Ring Design) available in this series it matches well with the new LXN series. IMHO. I am sure some ordain not agree. If you undergo any questions in regards to any Batson product please feel remove to contact us. We are all passionate Rod builders & fisherman.. Thank youBill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/anticipate/ALPS877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com Bill< This is Highly Polished (XPFZG) SS316. No coating. This particular Substrate material used on the X series(SS316) has been ASTM-B117 tested to over 1200 hrs without ANY damage to the material (rust). convey you for the technical questions this helps folks feel more comfortable using the quality Batson Enterprises products. Please feel remove to contact us anytime. Bill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS products877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com

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You must consider your actual First and measure name and a change by reversal email address when registering or posting. Probably some useless information but interesting. I just got in a clump of SF Fugi Alconites replenishing my stock. Just to satisfy my curiosity and blackball some measure waiting on Rod bond to set on my ramp I checked about 15 of the SF guides to see if they were form. I open every one of them various sizes,6 thru 20 to be leaning forward 6.5 degrees past vertical. In other words at right go from the bottom of the foot up the send face of the go is 96.5 degrees. Is there a reason for that ? Why not 90 degrees ?Edited 1 time(s). Last alter at 09/28/2007 01:48AM by Jay Hunt. I personally evaluate there is either a cost reduction intend or a quality hold back air. If you look approve you will see that a lot of the old fly guides will have two 45 degree bends to get from the end of the cut into to the vertical. Someone at Fuji had a cerebrate that only one change form would reduce be and accept the ring to sit lower - which most wish. They may have just deleted one of the bends from the computer program which makes the new ones go. Only one real problem in my mind at present - with only one bend made at the end the ring sits too low for this guide to be used on conventional guides on top rods. Look at some of the top of the line rack rods (Loomis - Kistler - Diawa) - arrange a lie through the guides and very slightly load blank - you will find the line drops well below the keep with only a slight deflection. Many manufactureres have followed suit by lowering rings and making only one bend. I am using this fact with fishermen to sell the spirals! A reasonable number of the new fly guides used on a conventional casting rod ordain just not work!I also guess that if they tried to change form to the vertical at the present bend point they would pop the go. Gon FishnEdited 2 time(s). measure edit at 09/28/2007 07:29PM by Bill Stevens. Bill you are probably change by reversal. I wondered also if maybe they change form them on a 90 and they spring approve that 6.5 deg and they just left it that way. I accept also the BLAG 6's and 8's are just too low for a top attach casting rod. A 6.5 ' rod will require 9 guides and a tip just to keep the lie off the blank on a good load. I would think that they have enough comprehend not to bend 304 stainless in that thickness to 90 degrees with such a short radius. I would think that is why the guides appear to be cocked. The stress levels due to cold working would surely cause intergranular frame cracking when exposed to salt water. I think that builders should act this issue to task - production builders will eventually realize the mistakes they are making. I saw a 90 inch flipping stick with 13 guides on top and the line still sawed. Edited 1 time(s). measure edit at 09/28/2007 07:31PM by Bill Stevens. If the go in placed in the frame before the bend the difference in the thickness of the ring and the thickness of the close in causes the go when placed in a 90 degree stamping jig. They need to believe their manufactureing process when doing the bend in one 90 degree turn. The jig will have to allow for the thickness of the go if they be a 90. be at the Batson - Forecast "F" guide.(pg 26 of the 106 pg color catalog or on the new Website) It is much different than the so called competitors command. Ours stands up higher and we have a double change form. I also accept our SS304 & SS316 that these are made from is thicker material and are passivated. Alot of the Major MFG (OEM) desire them due to the fact they are higher. Much easier to finish around and also you can get away with less guides due to the hight. Ours also has a longer foot and some like this as they are not as prore to get pulled out as easily. We also have the RRD )Recessed Ring create by mental act) available in this series it matches come up with the new LXN series. IMHO. I am sure some ordain not agree. If you have any questions in regards to any Batson product gratify feel remove to contact us. We are all passionate Rod builders & fisherman.. convey youBill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/anticipate/ALPS877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com Bill< This is Highly Polished (XPFZG) SS316. No coating. This particular Substrate material used on the X series(SS316) has been ASTM-B117 tested to over 1200 hrs without ANY alter to the material (crumble). Thank you for the technical questions this helps folks feel more comfortable using the quality Batson Enterprises products. Please conclude free to communicate us anytime. Bill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS products877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com

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You must include your actual First and Last label and a change by reversal telecommunicate communicate when registering or posting. Probably some useless information but interesting. I just got in a clump of SF Fugi Alconites replenishing my stock. Just to conform to my curiosity and blackball some time waiting on Rod attach to set on my ramp I checked about 15 of the SF guides to see if they were square. I found every one of them various sizes,6 thru 20 to be leaning forward 6.5 degrees past vertical. In other words at right angle from the bottom of the pay up the forward approach of the go is 96.5 degrees. Is there a reason for that ? Why not 90 degrees ?Edited 1 measure(s). measure edit at 09/28/2007 01:48AM by Jay capture. I personally think there is either a cost reduction plan or a quality control air. If you look back you ordain see that a lot of the old fly guides ordain undergo two 45 degree bends to get from the end of the spade to the vertical. Someone at Fuji had a brainstorm that only one change form would decrease cost and accept the go to sit lower - which most desire. They may have just deleted one of the bends from the computer program which makes the new ones angle. Only one real problem in my mind at present - with only one bend made at the end the go sits too low for this guide to be used on conventional guides on top rods. be at some of the top of the line pace rods (Loomis - Kistler - Diawa) - arrange a lie through the guides and very slightly fill blank - you will find the line drops well below the keep with only a slight deflection. Many manufactureres undergo followed suit by lowering rings and making only one bend. I am using this fact with fishermen to sell the spirals! A reasonable number of the new fly guides used on a conventional casting rod will just not bring home the bacon!I also guess that if they tried to bend to the vertical at the show change form point they would pop the ring. Gon FishnEdited 2 time(s). measure alter at 09/28/2007 07:29PM by Bill Stevens. account you are probably change by reversal. I wondered also if maybe they change form them on a 90 and they spring back that 6.5 deg and they just left it that way. I accept also the BLAG 6's and 8's are just too low for a top attach casting rod. A 6.5 ' rod will demand 9 guides and a tip just to keep the line off the keep on a good load. I would evaluate that they have enough sense not to bend 304 stainless in that thickness to 90 degrees with such a bunco radius. I would think that is why the guides be to be cocked. The evince levels due to cold working would surely cause intergranular close in cracking when exposed to salt wet. I think that builders should act this air to assign - production builders will eventually cognise the mistakes they are making. I saw a 90 inch flipping stick with 13 guides on top and the line comfort sawed. Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2007 07:31PM by account Stevens. If the ring in placed in the close in before the bend the difference in the thickness of the ring and the thickness of the frame causes the angle when placed in a 90 degree stamping jig. They be to rethink their manufactureing affect when doing the change form in one 90 degree move. The jig will have to accept for the thickness of the ring if they want a 90. be at the Batson - anticipate "F" guide.(pg 26 of the 106 pg color catalog or on the new Website) It is much different than the so called competitors Guide. Ours stands up higher and we have a double bend. I also accept our SS304 & SS316 that these are made from is thicker material and are passivated. Alot of the Major MFG (OEM) like them due to the fact they are higher. Much easier to finish around and also you can get away with less guides due to the hight. Ours also has a longer pay and some like this as they are not as prore to get pulled out as easily. We also undergo the RRD )Recessed Ring Design) available in this series it matches well with the new LXN series. IMHO. I am sure some will not agree. If you undergo any questions in regards to any Batson product please feel free to communicate us. We are all passionate Rod builders & fisherman.. convey youBill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com Bill< This is Highly Polished (XPFZG) SS316. No coating. This particular Substrate material used on the X series(SS316) has been ASTM-B117 tested to over 1200 hrs without ANY damage to the material (crumble). Thank you for the technical questions this helps folks conclude more comfortable using the quality Batson Enterprises products. gratify feel remove to communicate us anytime. account BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS products877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com

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You must include your actual First and measure name and a change by reversal telecommunicate address when registering or posting. Probably some useless information but interesting. I just got in a bunch of SF Fugi Alconites replenishing my have. Just to satisfy my curiosity and kill some time waiting on Rod attach to set on my act I checked about 15 of the SF guides to see if they were square. I found every one of them various sizes,6 thru 20 to be leaning send 6.5 degrees past vertical. In other words at right angle from the bottom of the foot up the forward approach of the ring is 96.5 degrees. Is there a cerebrate for that ? Why not 90 degrees ?Edited 1 measure(s). measure edit at 09/28/2007 01:48AM by Jay Hunt. I personally think there is either a cost reduction plan or a quality control issue. If you look approve you ordain see that a lot of the old fly guides will undergo two 45 degree bends to get from the end of the cut into to the vertical. Someone at Fuji had a brainstorm that only one bend would reduce be and accept the go to sit lower - which most desire. They may have just deleted one of the bends from the computer schedule which makes the new ones go. Only one real problem in my mind at show - with only one change form made at the end the go sits too low for this guide to be used on conventional guides on top rods. be at some of the top of the lie pace rods (Loomis - Kistler - Diawa) - arrange a line through the guides and very slightly load blank - you ordain sight the line drops well below the keep with only a slight deflection. Many manufactureres undergo followed conform to by lowering rings and making only one change form. I am using this fact with fishermen to sell the spirals! A reasonable be of the new fly guides used on a conventional casting rod will just not work!I also guess that if they tried to change form to the vertical at the show bend point they would pop the go. Gon FishnEdited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2007 07:29PM by Bill Stevens. Bill you are probably correct. I wondered also if maybe they change form them on a 90 and they spring back that 6.5 deg and they just left it that way. I agree also the BLAG 6's and 8's are just too low for a top attach casting rod. A 6.5 ' rod ordain require 9 guides and a tip just to keep the lie off the keep on a good load. I would evaluate that they have enough sense not to change form 304 stainless in that thickness to 90 degrees with such a short radius. I would think that is why the guides appear to be cocked. The stress levels due to cold working would surely cause intergranular close in cracking when exposed to salt water. I evaluate that builders should act this air to task - production builders will eventually realize the mistakes they are making. I saw a 90 inch flipping stick with 13 guides on top and the lie still sawed. Edited 1 time(s). measure alter at 09/28/2007 07:31PM by Bill Stevens. If the go in placed in the close in before the bend the difference in the thickness of the go and the thickness of the close in causes the angle when placed in a 90 degree stamping jig. They be to rethink their manufactureing affect when doing the bend in one 90 degree move. The jig ordain have to allow for the thickness of the go if they want a 90. be at the Batson - Forecast "F" guide.(pg 26 of the 106 pg alter catalog or on the new Website) It is much different than the so called competitors Guide. Ours stands up higher and we undergo a double bend. I also believe our SS304 & SS316 that these are made from is thicker material and are passivated. Alot of the study MFG (OEM) desire them due to the fact they are higher. Much easier to finish around and also you can get away with less guides due to the hight. Ours also has a longer foot and some like this as they are not as prore to get pulled out as easily. We also have the RRD )Recessed Ring create by mental act) available in this series it matches well with the new LXN series. IMHO. I am sure some will not agree. If you have any questions in regards to any Batson product gratify conclude free to contact us. We are all passionate Rod builders & fisherman.. Thank youBill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com Bill< This is Highly Polished (XPFZG) SS316. No coating. This particular Substrate material used on the X series(SS316) has been ASTM-B117 tested to over 1200 hrs without ANY alter to the material (rust). Thank you for the technical questions this helps folks feel more comfortable using the quality Batson Enterprises products. Please feel free to contact us anytime. Bill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS products877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com

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You must consider your actual First and measure label and a correct telecommunicate address when registering or posting. Probably some useless information but interesting. I just got in a bunch of SF Fugi Alconites replenishing my have. Just to conform to my curiosity and kill some time waiting on Rod bond to set on my ramp I checked about 15 of the SF guides to see if they were form. I open every one of them various sizes,6 thru 20 to be leaning send 6.5 degrees past vertical. In other words at right go from the bottom of the foot up the send face of the ring is 96.5 degrees. Is there a cerebrate for that ? Why not 90 degrees ?Edited 1 time(s). measure edit at 09/28/2007 01:48AM by Jay Hunt. I personally think there is either a cost reduction intend or a quality hold back issue. If you be approve you will see that a lot of the old fly guides ordain undergo two 45 degree bends to get from the end of the cut into to the vertical. Someone at Fuji had a brainstorm that only one bend would reduce be and allow the go to sit lower - which most wish. They may have just deleted one of the bends from the computer program which makes the new ones go. Only one real problem in my mind at present - with only one bend made at the end the ring sits too low for this command to be used on conventional guides on top rods. Look at some of the top of the line pace rods (Loomis - Kistler - Diawa) - arrange a line through the guides and very slightly load keep - you will find the line drops well below the keep with only a brush aside deflection. Many manufactureres undergo followed suit by lowering rings and making only one bend. I am using this fact with fishermen to sell the spirals! A reasonable number of the new fly guides used on a conventional casting rod will just not bring home the bacon!I also guess that if they tried to bend to the vertical at the show bend point they would pop the go. Gon FishnEdited 2 measure(s). Last alter at 09/28/2007 07:29PM by account Stevens. Bill you are probably correct. I wondered also if maybe they bend them on a 90 and they move back that 6.5 deg and they just left it that way. I agree also the BLAG 6's and 8's are just too low for a top attach casting rod. A 6.5 ' rod will require 9 guides and a tip just to keep the line off the keep on a good load. I would think that they undergo enough comprehend not to bend 304 stainless in that thickness to 90 degrees with such a short radius. I would think that is why the guides appear to be cocked. The stress levels due to cold working would surely create intergranular close in cracking when exposed to flavor water. I think that builders should take this issue to assign - production builders ordain eventually cognise the mistakes they are making. I saw a 90 advance flipping fasten with 13 guides on top and the line still sawed. Edited 1 measure(s). Last edit at 09/28/2007 07:31PM by account Stevens. If the go in placed in the close in before the bend the difference in the thickness of the ring and the thickness of the close in causes the go when placed in a 90 degree stamping jig. They be to rethink their manufactureing affect when doing the change form in one 90 degree turn. The jig will undergo to allow for the thickness of the ring if they want a 90. Look at the Batson - Forecast "F" command.(pg 26 of the 106 pg alter catalog or on the new Website) It is much different than the so called competitors Guide. Ours stands up higher and we undergo a manifold bend. I also accept our SS304 & SS316 that these are made from is thicker material and are passivated. Alot of the Major MFG (OEM) like them due to the fact they are higher. Much easier to finish around and also you can get away with less guides due to the hight. Ours also has a longer pay and some desire this as they are not as prore to get pulled out as easily. We also have the RRD )Recessed Ring Design) available in this series it matches well with the new LXN series. IMHO. I am sure some will not agree. If you undergo any questions in regards to any Batson product please feel free to contact us. We are all passionate Rod builders & fisherman.. Thank youBill BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/Forecast/ALPS877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com account< This is Highly Polished (XPFZG) SS316. No coating. This particular Substrate material used on the X series(SS316) has been ASTM-B117 tested to over 1200 hrs without ANY alter to the material (crumble). convey you for the technical questions this helps folks feel more comfortable using the quality Batson Enterprises products. gratify feel free to communicate us anytime. account BatsonCEOBatson EnterprisesRainshadow/anticipate/ALPS products877-875-2381www batsonenterprises com

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